throat and that's when he dies. so the fact that he was in the shower naked puts anymore a very vulnerable position and once she got that first stab in. he was vulnerable for the rest of the time until she finally just killed him. >> if the jury would listen to you, or believes that the description you just gave us is accurate, they have to give her the death penalty, do they not? >> pretty much. i mean, it's right there. but, even if they find those aggravating factors and they find that it was cruel, physical, and mentally cruel to him, they don't have to say death penalty. they can say no death. and if they say no death and they find those aggravating factors, the judge will give her natural life with no parole. >> bill: and what is your prediction? >> i don't think they are going to give her death. i think they have every reason to. if they decide. but to put a woman to death, i think is very difficult for people to do.